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Here’s another “who’s who?” photo

February 9th, 2010 @ 22:45
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Cal Hill
February 10th, 2010 15:01
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Alright, more detective work! OK, I’ll start. I’m assuming that if there had been any clues, such as a year or location, that you would have included that info. So here goes:

Based on the clothing, particularly the girls, I’d say the photo was taken anywhere in the 1900-1925 timeframe. My guess is probably pre-WWI in the “teens”.

I’m not going to hazard a guess on most of them, but I’ll go out on a limb, and tell you right now that the two older folks in the back row (just to the right of the young woman with baby) are Orva Lester and Susan Sabra. I’ve got another photo of him, so I’m certain of that. As to Sabra, she looks the same as in the photo you’ve all seen of the John Henry Saunders family in front of their house in Wimberly, although she is obviously older here.

As to the rest of them, who knows? Probably a lot of Saunder’s, Wimberly’s, Oatman’s or Whipple’s. Lord knows there were a bunch of them. I’m hoping some of you can identify more of them.
John
February 10th, 2010 16:04
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Like you, I can only identify Orva and Sabra. And the “teens” does look right. I wonder if it’s before or after Henry was killed.

Because they look to be of the age where they must have had had all their kids and because we don’t see those kids in the photo, I’ll make the guess that our great grandparents there were visiting relatives.

Or maybe this was in some town where they were teaching. Charlie and I kinda have the beginnings of a little understanding of the trail of tiny Texas towns they taught in. Orva, Sabra, Lester and Henry all taught in rough and tumble early Texas schools. Orva, of course, the most.

But I always assume that really good looking blond people in our family photos from this time period are Saunders or Wimberleys. The boy on the other end of the photo is wearing the kind of pants you’ve pointed out before were common to Whipple boys but I don’t recognize him. The young man and young woman next to him ain’t too good lookin’ so I hope they aren’t too closely related. Did I type that out loud?

What I always hope is that some of the Saunders or Wimberley grandkids will stumble on our site here and go “Hey, that’s my great grandmother!”

(Time capsule comment: if you arrive here ten years from now on a search and that’s your great grandmother or great grandfather, I’m just kidding – they’re beautiful.)
charlie
February 10th, 2010 18:03
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I can’t be of much help, but it looks like the man in the middle may be my dad with my mother, Esther, in front of him. It looks like it might be aunt Mary in front of grandmother Sabra. The little blonde girl in front may be Dorothy Belle. If that should be the case the time period would be around 1922. The man on the right might be one of the Saunders men, maybe Doty.
Ray Smith
February 10th, 2010 19:22
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Here is my analysis of the picture. I think, like Charlie, that the picture is circa 1922. O.L. Whipple (age 65) is correctly identified. The woman to his right is not Sabra. It is her mother, Callie Saunders (age 67). I have another identified picture that shows her the same. Sabra (age 49) is the one holding the baby. One has to remember that O.L. was 16 years older than Sabra. I think Charlie identified Lester (age 28) and Esther correctly. Also Mary (age 23). I believe that the girl in the very middle is my mother, Virginia (age 13), and the boy on the right side of the picture is Raymond (age 15). The girl to Ester’s left is Mable, (age 18). I can’t identify the other persons.
John
February 10th, 2010 21:28
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Wow Ray, that’s awesome. Thanks so much.

I’m going to print this image out on just a sheet of computer printer paper and write down those ages right on it. I learn something new each time we do one of these picture puzzles – I need to print out some examples that are marked up to use as reference material.

I completely see what you’re saying. Sabra looks like Callie BUT IN PHOTOS FROM 20 YEARS LATER. That’s a time illusion.

See… I’m telling everybody, this can’t be done without help.
Cal Hill
February 11th, 2010 13:12
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Thanks Uncle Ray! It’s amazing what we can uncover in less than 24 hours when technology allows us to access, and then comment on the photo in a matter of minutes. Can you imagine doing this via letters sent throught the post? Just what we have so far would have taken weeks or months to circulate around! It’s no wonder that geneology is experiencing a renaissance, so to speak.

As to the identities of the folks in the photo, I generally agree with you Ray. I had forgotten that Orva was 16 years older than Sabra, so that must be her mother Callie standing next to him. It’s that time illusion thing that John mentioned, because Sabra did look a lot like her mother. Since both Charlie and Uncle Ray agree, I’ll also accept that Lester and Esther are correctly identified. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a photo of Lester as a young man, or a photo of Esther at all, so I wouldn’t know. I’m pleased that Uncle Ray believes that the girl in the middle is his mother (and my grandmother) Virginia, because that was my suspicion. I just didn’t want to hazard a guess and add to the confusion. I also think Uncle Ray is right about Mabel, and probably Raymond. I also think Charlie may be right about the little girl in front being Dorothy Belle. She looks to be about 3 years old in the photo, so IF the photo was taken circa 1922, which was 88 years ago, that little girl would be about 91-92 years old now. Bingo.

So, here’s where I have questions, or doubts. Uncle Ray thinks that the woman holding the baby is Sabra. That may be so, but I’m having a hard time buying it, because the woman in the photo does not look like she’s anywhere near the age of 49! Just looking at the image, I would guess her age to be 15-20 years younger than that. I don’t know, maybe I just can’t deduce approximate age in people anymore, or maybe Sabra was able to retain her youthful appearance into middle age. I have the same problem with the girl that both Charlie and Ray identified as Aunt Mary. Again, the girl in the photo (with dark stockings) doesn’t look to be as old as 23. To my eye, she looks more like 16-17, maybe as old as 18, but not as old as 23! Remember, I’m not disagreeing with any of you; I just have doubts.

Finally, and I’m just tossing this out there for arguments sake, could the guy on the right in the black suit possibly be a young and pudgy Uncle Howard? If I look at the photo just right, I think I can see a resemblance. If we have the date of the photo pretty close, Howard would have been about 21-22 years old. Kinda looks a little like a young law student, or freshly-minted lawyer might look, doesn’t it? Just a thought.

Well, there’s my 2 cents. For today. I’m looking forward to seeing how it unfolds.
charlie
February 13th, 2010 11:38
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Here are several wild guesses–the woman next to Callie is Callie’s daughter Mable Saunders Wimberley, the baby is Dot Wimberley, the little girl with her head down is Dot’s older sister, Virginia, and the person who is taking the picture is Hick Wimberley. That would only leave the zoftig girl on the right unidentified. One other possibility of a woman who could be in the picture is Aunt Madie who lived next door to 505.(I will not be offended if everyone begs to differ.)
charlie
February 13th, 2010 15:55
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Regarding the girl on the right of the picture, she could possibly be Gladys, Sabra’s sister Maggie’s daughter. When they periodically came to visit at 505 from Lockhart around 1936 her son Billie was also about six years old. Backing up to 1922 that would have put Gladys about the age of the girl in the picture. Gladys was a very sweet person but if that is her she was no longer chubby.
John
February 13th, 2010 17:30
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you really stumped us with the word zoftig here in New Braunfels. Jimmie (who has an outstanding vocabulary) and I (whom don’t) had to look it up. What a great word…. “pleasantly plump”.

If that is 505, and it does look like it, then Madie would only have been a door away and could be expected to be at a family gathering and then in a shot like this.

Aren’t group shots most often taken when people get together who usually don’t? You might be right Charlie, Maggie coming for a visit would fit that bill. Somebody’s visit is one of the things that can seed the clouds for a family group photo.
charlie
February 13th, 2010 18:54
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Central to this photo is Callie. Everybody else in the photo, with the exception of O.L. and my mother, is probably one of her daughters, grand children or great grandchildren and these are just some of her descendants! – - A wonderful leap from being a Williamson girl with only one good dress to her name! Maybe that’s why we are so fascinated by this picture, we all have some of her Williamson genes.

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- John : well like I say the next day every year... the Woodzie occured! Saying "a happening" is one thing, the Woodzie is "an occurrence". One step up from a happening. It was great. I've enjoyed all seven but I think this one and the second one are my personal favorites. Thanks everybody for making it so cool!
- Karen in Hawaii : Y'all live it up and have a fantastic time, and thanks for posting pics later, when you can. God bless and huggz, Wish I could be there, to say the least. Sincerely, Karen
- Karen in Hawaii : Your Woodzie location looks so GREEN and gorgeous this year! Woo hooo so wasn't it that you were in drought last year and are not at all, now? What a blessing!
- John : There's a whole gaggle of us out at the Woodzie site. It's looking really, really good. Everybody is as happy as a little kid on vacation. That's the magic of The Woodzie. Drive out here and hang with us tonight if you want to. When Butch Morgan gets here I bet a song circle is gonna break out.
- John : Jimmie took today and tomorrow off so she'll have four days of Woodzie vacation!! We're hitting the preperation of the campsites really hard. It's going to be close timewise but I think we'll have it really nice by Saturday. Jimmie's favorite thing in the world is working in her woods so she's very, very happy.
- John : check out the "dogs in the snow" video «link»
- John : you're so welcome. The TNMC and the Oma's thing were both fun. Just think.. in 25 short years you'll be old like me and Jimmie. These upcoming 25 years are the big ones, you have to do something great with them.
- Tyler : Thank y'all again so much! It totally made the start of my 26th year awesome...now if we can all take a moment to remind Deirdre that I'm not 25... love y'all!
- Ann/mom : Son, we really enjoyed you and Jimmy tonight. What a fitting end to Tyler's BD
- John : OK.... I'm playing at Oma's tonight for the ending ceremonies of Tyler's 25th Week Long Birthday Olympics. Come up and have a Dunkel. I'll see if I can't stick my endings.
- Ann/mom : Well ya see, when Billy O'Connor & I danced together or if I'm dancing, I can sing! But heck, ya can't be dancing to sing, or remember the words. Oh, heck I'll just listen to ya'll!
- John : Mother, you do have those talents you just need to start singing and playing some percussion stuff. I don't know of anybody who has more music in them than you. It's in every cell of your body.
- Ann/mom : I keep wondering why don't I have any of those talents?
- Ann/mom : I am trying to figure out how you can go to TNMC and not smile! Just the joy of anticipation and seeing, and meeting other people is enough for me. But then..knowing someone is going to just bowl you over with a song is such a gift. Lawrence harmonizes so beautifully and enjoys it so much. I thnk I live for TNMC, in the sense of looking forward to being with so many wonderful friends and of course family.
- John : it was so nice to see Tyler having so much fun. Didn't she sound great? Last night's TNMC had it's share of oddities but it was overall very good. Everybody seemed to enjoy singing even more than usual, it wasn't a laid back night... everybody was belting it out.
- Jimmie : Big night at Thursday Night Music Club tomorrow for Tyler's b-day. Hope to see you there!
- Art : we're looking forward to the WOODZIE
- John : Now it's Sunday night. Time is flying. The Susan Gibson songwriting workshop went well. After that Jimmie and I drove all the way to Devine, Texas for Claude Morgan's house warming party. He's been rebuilding that house for years and it's finally done. We saw some interesting people, played a little music and had a great time. Claude said to say hello to everybody and that he'll see ya at The Woodzie this year for sure.
- John : ...now it's Friday and it's gorgeous. Caught a little bit of the weather on TV ... looks like an almost perfect week this week.
- John : now it's Thursday and it's gorgeous
- John : another rainy day
- John : wow. thanks!
- Jessica : I saw your post on the Transit Tower here in town. Here is a photo «link» from Life magazine looking down Houston Street (?) past the Gunter Hotel. I love your blog!
- Tyler : pics?
- John : the new floor is great
- John : Jimmie is putting in a new kitchen floor. She's such an expert at that. It's almost done and it looks great.
- Steve : “Magnetism, as you recall from physics class, is a powerful force that causes certain items to be attracted to refrigerators.”
- John : Yeah, it was good to see you. Well.. I have one foot back on the side of the living now that the Tejas party is in the rear view mirror. I'm wondering how it's going to be possible to pull off The Woodzie just 18 days from now.
- Jimmie : we enjoyed seeing you Liani!
- Liani : Hi John! It was really nice to catch up with you guys last week. Just got my tickets for Woodzie! Looking forward to friends, music and blue bonnets in bloom!
- John : don't forget the Tejas Party. Just tell them you're with Whippleworld and they'll stamp you VIP at the door. It might be considerably less packed this year just because things are so down in record business but fewer people will make it easier to get around. It's at the Cadillac Bar at 7:00. The address is 212 S. Flores, a street over from the courthouse.
- MF : Don't forget Big Glenn's open mic at Casbeers, at 7:30PM...it's gonna be hi-fi deluxe
- John : Another rainy day, this has been one of the rainiest winter/early springs I can remember. But the weather report says we'll have a perfect night for the Tejas Party. A cool, dry night in downtown San Antonio... I'm thinking it's going to be good.
- Steve : I'll be at both
- John : Yeah, it's the 10th. Are you guys coming to the Tejas Party next week? Friday the 19th. Everybody is invited to a big old night full of San Antonio Tex-Mex music tradition.
- Art : steve... it's April 10th
- Steve : I'm sure it's on your website here somewhere but tell me again what day the woodzie is
- John : We had a real treat yesterday, Chris MacKenzie and Liliana came for a tour of The Woodzie site. Jimmie had just taken off to cut wildflowers and we were able to catch up with her and all have a nice visit at the boneyard.
- John : Jimmie and I have been going out to the Woodzie site for campfires in the evenings. What wonderful weather we've had this week. I think spring is here to stay. I'm being inspired - I think I'll plant a big vegetable garden this year.
- Ann/mom : I thought last night was very special. Betsy has a very sweet pure voice, and Zak is so very thrilled with everybody and being able to sing. Then the gentleman who gave me his name, and shame on me I have forgotten, but he is in from Arkansas taking turns sitting with his Mom as he has about 7 days left so Hospice has said. He is an architect & loved the looks of the Faust & couldn't believe what he found. He said he could feel our love and the vibes from everybody's enthusiasm made him want t
- Tyler : OMG y'all I have 9 days off starting tomorrow at 5! whoo-hoo I don't know what I'll do with myself I need some sun
- John : Well.... The Woodzie is one month away.
- John : I'm not sure how fearless I am anymore.
- MF : It was also Townes's birthday. Brad drug himself in sick as a dog and did a Townes set...even ol' Glenn did a Townes set...you had better get more fearless....if your our fearless leader... [smiley]
- John : no, Mike.... I got back late and was just impossibly tired. I didn't know it was the 4th Anniversary until I read it this morning. So sorry I missed it. That's like only the 4th time I've missed in 4 years.
- MF : You going to Riley's Big John?
- John : We're taking a little road trip today.... see you guys tomorrow.
- Malcolm : Yes, Ann, I plan on only taking home those animals I bring with me.
- Ann/mom : Malcolm, are you trying to say that this year you won't be taking one home with you?
- Malcolm : Ofcoureyearright surewhateveryous ayuhhuh.
- John : I had forgotten about that. Of course now I'm sure you love it and happily change it's litter box.
- Malcolm : She was one of the felines doled out at last year's gathering. Katie was the gifted recipient - not my idea.
- John : Explain that to me Malcolm. How is that a Woodzie kitten?
- Malcolm : I know I'm gonna try to make it Thursday. In the meantime, take a look at one of the Woodzie kittens from last year. «link»
- John : This Thursday will be the one year anniversary. I hope everybody will make a special effort to come.
- Ann/mom : Last night was just fabulous! Casey's new song brought a tear to a dear friend of mine in Denver,CO ! They listen to TNMC every week and it makes them feel like a part of it. Can't wait until next Thursday.
- Tyler Archer : Yay! TNMC is closely approaching!
- Jimmie : tonight is Casey at Thursday Night Music Club. Drive up or tune into the Internet radio broadcast!!
- John : MySpace is so 15 minutes ago.
- Peterson : thanks for the plug Whippleworld. Love the site. Here's some news about MySpace: MySpace’s Hail Mary Strategy: “Discovery” «link»
- John : From Brad, "Just a reminder, Parke Hedges will be on Channel 4 News in San Antonio tonight after the Olympics."
- Guest_1973 : Hello Team WhippleWorld, My name is Austin Brown and I have been following your contributions within Whipple World. I really enjoy the great material you have to share on a consistent basis and I really hope to see this blog thrive well into the future . I'm writing to you today because I thought that you and your readers would be interested in hearing about a new reality-TV singing competition for country singers thats hitting the web and television called The Hard Road to Nashville ™.
- Art : I heard through the grapevine that your show at Oma's was great.
- John : it's 78 degrees outside, Jimmie's out in the forest getting ready for the Woodzie.
- John : I really appreciate everybody coming out to Oma's on Friday. What a wonderful turnout. I had a terrific time. Tracy wanted me to thank everybody... it has been slow during the cold months and they needed a successful night. She said our thing combined with the party upstairs resulted in a very big night for them. She said it was just what they needed. It was just what I needed, too.
- John : Thanks. Yeah, I'm going to do a full hour of my stuff. That ought to be quite an experience. Of some kind. TONIGHT is TNMC with Brad as the featured guest so everybody needs to either come or tune into www.am1760.net to listen. Starts somewhere around 7:00 to about 11:00 central time.
- Karen in Hawaii : Also, VERY cool you're going to be singing more and the venues will grow. Live it up, y'all. Take care.
- Karen in Hawaii : That's quite a coincidence that though the Whipple lady isn't a direct relative, you had indeed had to say goodbye to someone. Sincere condolences to all that loved her and cared for her.
- John : I went and looked at that and it was Elizabeth Wells Whipple who I don't believe is a direct relative to us. Mother and I were at a funeral this morning; my sister Renee's husband Randy's sister Maureen Grothues. We love all the Grothues. Maureen was very special person who we remember very fondly.
- Karen in Hawaii : Bless all and glad you had a fine Valentine's day. Only place I ever rode a hog was on Devil's backbone, or that's what we called it then, and it's somewhere between Kirby and Canyon Lake is all I recall, LOL. well, motormouth, over and out. Thanks and huggz
- Karen in Hawaii : Jimmie and John, I just found a Whipple listed in the Obits of the SA paper online. surely she is a relative of yours, yes? I have to get some sleep but wanted to peek in on y'all and send you huggz and condolences but dangme that I can't read a lot here right now. You, as always have added some wonderful pictures and articles. Hope to peek back soon.
- John : What a gorgeous day today was. Had a nice visit with Renee last night. A negative is that Taylor and Evan are both sick - hope it doesn't keep spreading.
- Deirdre : Thanks Art! Willy and I really enjoyed the premiere and we're going to record the series.
- Art : you guys are into genealogy, have you seen the TV ads for "Faces of America"? «link» I know not everybody watches PBS but I think it's going to get a lot more people wondering about their family history.
- John : It was good. I bet they had a defibrillator within 30 feet of Pete Townsend the whole time.
- Pat : not only did our Saints win but it was the most watched television broadcast in history. «link» And The Who totally kicked butt.
- John : yeah, that's where Russell, Renee and I grew up. Dad drives over there to check on it just about every day. It's a cool house, it just needs a restoration.
- Casey : went to the Eisenhower Fleamarket today and off the highway I see this house and I go, hey I think that is my Grandad's house is that Glendora St. and sure enough it was ..... isn't that crazy that I can pick out a house that I've never been to? Anyway what a cool looking house and what a shame no one lives in it!
- M. Peters : I see links to this blog from many music topic forums like this one «link»
- John : Thank you. My sister and I did those. Keep clicking on the headers to view different ones. There's about 80.
- M. Peters : you have more artistic headers than any site i've seen
- John : for those visitors who come from Facebook or from a search to a single page, click on the header to go to the main blog page.
- John : Art... it's all volunteers. Has nothing to do with trying to make music in the money biz. Come out and help with it. Sonny, come sing in a song circle one week - that's the way to a featured spot. Love to have you.
- Sonny : I saw Havilah at the writing workshop last weekend. What would it take for me to be a featured guest?
- Art : The live radio thing is pretty damn cool John how can you afford to do that without any ads?
- Jackie : i heard the streamcast from your folk concert and it was very enjoyable, a very talented group. thanx.
- John : Jimmie's making a HUGE pot of potato soup for Thursday Night Music Club tonight. Come hungry.
- John : It's rained so much I think I'm growin' gills. Could Mother Nature please settle us in somewhere between drought and rain forest?
- John : here's the online PDF version of Texas Music Magazine. It's worth looking at. «link»
- Pat : 2:39 p.m. Best contemporary folk album: Steve Earle's "Townes." «link» And the Jeff Beck "How High The Moon" tribute to Les Paul was cool.
- John : Well, Tejas had two out of the five nominations in our category in yesterday's Grammy Awards but didn't win. The 30 minutes of the broadcast I sat and watched was just awful. They really work hard to make those talented people look so stupid. Bon Jovi was ridicuous. Pink was the only cool thing I saw. The song didn't leave any impression, just the high wire and dripping water act. That was cool. She should join the circus.
- John : The Cactus Cafe links U.T. with Austin's music scene. What a mistake to close it.
- Steven : that's bad news
- Pat : when in Austin did you hear that they're closing the Cactus Cafe? «link» Captial City musicians mustn't be happy 'bout that.
- Sonny : John, I'm in the showcases. Second room from the front.
- John : Back on the computer for a moment. Claude just finished his showcase. He filled the room and did a fantastic job. He's easily one of the coolest guys here. Jimmie, I just met somebody who remembers you from a Swindles show at Riley's. He verified it when he said you were a "spirited dancer". I've also talked to a surprising number of people who are following everything that happens with TNMC on Facebook each week and several who've played it.
- John : Well thanks..... I'm on the computer across from the bar if you're on a laptop or something in the lobby. But people are waiting - I'll be the one getting beat up here in two or three minutes. I'm doing fine - THANKS SO MUCH, CASEY. THIS HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE.
- Sonny : i've been searching around this website. nice. I met John Whipple at the songwriter's workshop in Austin yesterday and Googled him. a wonderful songwriter.
- Jimmie : yeah, a big one.
- Tyler Archer : Whoo-hoo! TNMC tonight!
- John : Funny how that works, huh?
- Casey : ok so if you ask who is bringing the cake I guess the answer is you.
- John : your Grandma really liked it last time so one of the potluck headliners for TNMC is going to be your mother's famous lasagna style ZITI! We need good bread and lots of side dishes.
- John : Grandma has been the great provider of everybody's birthday cakes for so many years, we need to get her a nice one. What should we do?
- Casey : what is the meal plan for TNMC? Anyone bringing a cake?
- John : It just hasn't learned to love you yet. Bring it and I'll do a little matchmaking on Thursday.
- Tyler Archer : Uncle John I'll bring my laptop to TNMC & show you but the Dashboard wont let me create posts- I'm logged in...it just hates me
- karen in Hawaii : So, it's a good year for Bluebonnets and you're still counting them, I bet! Sigh...what a life.
- John : It's not you, live links are the only thing that don't email in - they're just seen as text. If you log in you can do it the non emailing in way and then links are easy. Try it!
- Tyler Archer : Uncle John the blog hates me - my links didn't show up again
- John : Going to Riley's tonight. Join us!
- DAP : Avett Brothers are on Austin City Limits tonight.
- John : you gots ta log in. Or you can email it in. I'll call you.
- Casey : what changed? how can I write a post?
- Tyler Archer : Thanks Uncle John! I'm glad I finally got to stay for a little bit of the song circle again.
- John : You were really good tonight, Tyler. I enjoyed everything you did.
- Tyler Archer : Whoo-hoo! TNMC!!! Yay!!! Yeehaw!!! Yippee! Okay that's all the excitement I can handle right now...see y'all tonight!
- John : Don't forget Thursday Nigh Music Club tonight! «link»
- Steve : Cursor kite. I WANT one. Take control of the beach. Delete bullies kicking sand in my face. Erase bikini tops. Who knew it could be this easy? «link»
- Steve : Want to vote in the Austin Chronicle Music Poll? «link»
- John : Going with my cousin Charlie Whipple (who's closing in on 80) to visit cousin Dorothy Wimberley, (over 90), on Wednesday to mill over stories, photos and papers about our family in the early days of Wimberley, Tx. Charlie wrote a song about Wimberley that mentions Dot's grandfather Pleasant Wimberley and we're going to sing it for her. I think she'll be tickled. I'll try to get some photos.
- Steve : I saw your "Big Picture" link about Haiti the other day. Here's the newest one called "Six Days Later": «link»
- John : me, three.
- Art : It's very sunny and warm today... but I wish I was down there with a fishing pole.
- Steve : I hope the weather is as nice in San Antone as it is here at South Padre. Sunny, warm and clear.
- John : oh... beautiful today though. Jimmie and I have been walking and counting bluebonnet plants. 21,435 or at least more than we've ever seen before.
- John : It has rained the same slow, steady, hypnotic rain for more than 24 hours now. It's enough to drive you crazy.
- Karen in Hawaii : I'll hush now, but just thanks for having the most TEXAN website that I've ever found, and it's THE place on the net I come to when I am homesick. Goodnight, from here.
- Karen in Hawaii : Dang, I guess I need sleep, Jimmie. I thanked you for making me welcome and sharing your part of the cyber world, and this very fine TEXAS family site.
- Karen in Hawaii : Christmas and the Holiday season was as nice as possible. for our immediate family it was fun and sweet, but EVERY holiday we spend time on the phone with family back there, of course.
- Tyler Archer : Thanks Uncle John you're my Blog Knight in Shining Armor
- John : I fixed it.
- Tyler Archer : uh-oh john my post is on there twice!!!!
- John : I saw on FaceBook that Terry Garza was asking what sign you were. Remember why you and I went on the Atkins Diet? So our sign doesn't have to be "wide load".
- MF : John, I have severed all ties with Dr.Atkins and his Shenannigans.To Wit: I embrace and endorse Dulce de Leche and all other variants of The Girl Scouts, and will consume them in copious quantities, should they become available. That bridge is a smoldering pile of dust.
- Malcolm : Looks like I need to make my way to TNMC this week with an order form!
- Tyler Archer : OMG OMG! I want Samoas, thin mints, sandies, the apple ones, tag-alongs, ummm and all the other too! I bought 10 boxes last year, but in my defense two were for Haley...
- Taylor Whipple : I'll take some Thin Mints.
- John : Dulce De Leches? Sounds like one of the bridges you're burning is the one between you and the Atkins Diet.
- MF : Malcolm Ill take a box of dulce de leches...will you be at the Faust?
- John : That sounds like a deal Malcolm. We'll take some for sure. Bonnie Priest used to put notices here years ago... now Ali is all grown up and in college and our Girl Scout Cookie connection dried up.
- Malcolm : For those Whippleworlders looking for a source of Girl Scout cookies I've got you covered: «link» Order early, order often and deliveries can be accomplished at either the Thursday Night Music Club or Reilly's. Not that I need an excuse, but one helps!
- John : Our well head is exposed and a lot of our plumbing is really susceptible to freezing when it gets down to under 25 and stays there all night. This 15 degree business is a real problem. I think I was able to prepare for it here ok but I'm afraid Taylor's house may go off like a sprinkler after the ice melts.
- John : Here's Cassell and Craig as seen from above: «link»
- John : we had a nice TNMC. We missed Deirdre and Ann/Mom but it was sure nice to see Tara, The Garcia's and David Byboth. The night ended with a bang... Evan's car wreck.
- Jimmie : So nice to have a virtual visit from you, Karen. Hope you had a wonderful holiday season there in paradise!
- Karen in Hawaii : Oh man! I miss the San Antonio Light. very cool to see this here. Well, I'll hush, bless you all.
- Karen in Hawaii : Y'all enjoy your winter weather, seriously I miss the stuff but hoping you don't stay Too cold for long.
- Karen in Hawaii : John, I hear ya. Thanks. I'd bet anyone in that area named Wells is likely kin, just as every person named Grumbles in Texas dang sure is.
- John : Be ready..... San Antonio is going to get down into the teens for the first time since 2002. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are all going to be super cold.
- John : Thanks, Mike. My voice felt good and, for whatever reason, my pitch was there. It usually has a mischievous mind of it's own bent on making a fool out of me.
- MF : John, you sounded great at Riley's....the best iv'e heard you in a long while...what ever it was keep doing that!
- Jimmie : we're heading out for a little holiday visit to see Charlie and Susan Whipple
- John : Karen, Rick is a friend but my Dad knows him a lot better than I do. I think he lives northwest of San Antonio. Maybe Boerne. That's not to say he didn't come from Devine.
- Karen in Hawaii : John, your friend Rick Wells....is he from Devine, or kin to Kenneth Wells & the other Wells that are from there?
- Karen in Hawaii : Wow, so much to catch up on! God bless you, John to be your healthiest in this new year, and hope you're all healed and fine, now. HAPPY new year to all of you, Sincerely, dang I gotta get some sleep but I see a lot of new posts and videos to get back here and enjoy, soon. K~
- John : well, Jimmie and I are looking forward to seeing you tonight at The Lavens. I'm looking forward to playing - maybe we'll grab that traditional song circle spot on the back porch if it's not too chilly.
- Malcolm : John, it is always a pleasure to see you, Jimmie, Brad, Glenn and everyone else energy level notwithstanding. Just glad to see you up and at 'em! I love hanging out with you guys!
- Steve : here's a better, high tech snow flake designer. «link»
- John : it was great to see you at Riley's, Malcolm. Thanks for coming up. Sorry my energy level was so low, I'm still trying to get back to normal.
- Malcolm : Okay, Glenn, Brad and I are here at Riley's waiting for you, John and company!
- John : Mother, Deirdre and Renee are coming up for dinner. I'm going to Riley's to play after that and some of them may come for a while. For DAP the deterrent is the smoke. Evan and Jimmie are coming to play. Come up if you can!
- Steve : don't have no Texas snow? This is beautiful and easy «link»
- John : We Wish You a Merry♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ Christmas♪♫•*¨*• .¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪We Wish You a Merry ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪Christ mas ♥ ♥ ♥We Wish You A Merry ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪Christ mas ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪...And A Happy New Year!♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥
- John : Quick!... more fake boogers!!
- Deirdre : All of the mountain cedar in South Texas has just landed in my sinuses in the last hour. And I haven't even gone outside. (We need a head swelling like a balloon emoticon here.)
- John : thanks! We're heading over to our daughter Casey's new house in San Antonio for this year's Christmas dinner and get together. We've always done it on Christmas Eve. We'll have a big breakfast and do the kids' presents in the morning and then over to Mitch and Hillary's Christmas afternoon. Hope every body has a wonderful, peaceful and relaxing Christmas! Relax, it's CHRISTMAS!
- Art : MERRY CHRISTMAS WHIPPLEWORLD!
- DAP : I would also recommend Allergen Block «link» - also known as fake boogers. They help.
- John : Well... the cedar pollen is starting to release. If you take something for cedar fever, start taking it now. Taylor and I take the over the counter generic Clariton from Wal-Mart. If you get the Equate two 60 count bottle package it's something like 8 cents a pill. If you take it everyday starting now you might cruise through unscathed this season.
- John : No, we went once and that's enough. If they were to have it at Riley's I'd go.
- Maria : congratulations on another year of Grammy nominations for Tejas, John. Not just one but two Are you going to go?
- Steve : glad you're out Big John. don't over do.
- John : other than the incision, my arm looks normal for the first time in what seems like forever. I have this strange, strong taste of what I guess is the antibiotics. I'm a little unsteady but other than that... I feel pretty good. Thanks everybody for all your kindnesses while I was sick.
- Jimmie : He's out of surgery and back in his room. Doing great.
- Kim M : Good luck with the surgery, John. Let us know if we can do anything to help you guys. Hope those bugs give up soon so you can go home.
- Guest_3160 : John-I am so sorry--hang in there. Becky
- DAP : I know this doesn't help, but OOUUCCHHHHH!!!
- John : In three hours (Wed. 7:00) I'm having the surgery to clean out the part of the infection that's in my elbow. Looks like I'm going to be here until Friday.
- John : It's Tuesday night, about 11:45 - I'm sitting in my hospital bed with a computer in my lap. It feels like I've been in this room forever. They took me for a wheelchair ride to x-ray yesterday. I was looking around, so excited, like a dog in the back of a pickup truck. I gotta get outta here. I think I'm gonna make a crawl for it.
- John : That's the bad news Malcolm, after this I won't be able to play the piano worth a damn. Exactly the same as before.
- Malcolm : That's terrific news! Now the question remains will you be able to play the piano?
- John : Taylor just stopped by the hospital to check on me and I've commondeered his laptop for the rest of the day. I'm doing much better. Thanks to everyone for the well wishes. I've rounded the corner and will be back on my feet in a day or two.
- Cara : Sending my prayers and best wishes!
- Kelli : Oh no!! Just read the news...putting the entire Whipple clan in my prayers. Keep us posted...
- Casey : mom says dad is stable. they are giving him heavy duty anti-biotics... she will be staying the night with him... she went to wally world to buy some knitting materials so she should be ok too
- Casey : um he doesn't want any visitors today but if he gets feeling better and he does I will post it.... right now he just wants to get feeling better
- MF : How long will he stay? Is he getting visitors?
- Casey : John has been admitted to North East Methodist Hospital. The infection has spread to his hand and he is now being given intervenious anti-biotics. I will post updates. Let's all hope for the best.
- Jimmie : They weren't able to get anything to drain so, no culture. I marked the outer rim of the red area and it hasn't grown since this afternoon. Also, I think he's feeling better.
- MF : Methicillin-resi stant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) is a bacterial infection that is highly resistant to some antibiotics. Staph skin infections cause a red, swollen, and painful area on the skin
- MF : Methicillin-resi stant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) is a bacterial infection that is highly resistant to some antibiotics. Staph skin infections cause a red, swollen, and painful area on the skin similar to what he is experiencing
- MF : Good. There are only a small amount of antibiotics that can kill certain bacteria, and if it's incapsulated that will keep it from spreading but hard to kill. Im glad you took him. with a broad spectrum of antibiotics should keep it from making him worse. did they do a culture to see if it's not MRSA or Staph?
- DAP : Ouch! "Dug around" and "with a needle" are not pleasant to think about - I hope you were well-drugged for that.
- Jimme : The infection did suddenly take a turn for the worse. I took him to the emergency room and then Tx Med Clinic. He got an injection of antibiotics and scrip for 2 addtional antibiotics and something for the pain. They think the infection is in the joint not the bursa because although she dug around, she couldn't drain it with a needle. If not better Monday we'll go to an orthopedist.
- MF : it takes 24 to 48 hours for the antibiotics to kick in from when you start. If this doesn't resolve you got the wrong antibiotics and need to go back. There are many strains if bacteria. So if he ain't rocking by tomorrow yall should see a different Doc. Hang in there big John!
- Jimmie : I'm keeping an eye on him, Mike. The fever went up to 101+ and I had him call the doctor. Then I had him alternate advil & tylenol and the fever finally went down. The arm is a little larger but not as hot to the touch. He feels very bad.
- MF : John if you get fever with that go to the ER....that infection could go systemic...don' t mess around
- John : Man, I came down super sick all of a sudden. I have an infection in my elbow of all places. They said it's probably a bad bursitis that got infected. It's huge and red and swollen. Can't seem to get the fever down. I'm sitting here half delirious hoping the antibiotics kick in pretty soon. I'm miserable.
- John : perfect idea... we're going to do that!
- DAP : There are 4 tiers of static, colored lights on our little prelit tree. Only tiers 2 & 4 will light. So I added a longer string of white animated lights and I'm pretending it's all intentional.
- John : We're putting up the Christmas tree... trying to get the lights to work.
- John : I think, although born in Rowena, she had moved to Dallas and that's where they met. There were some stories in the family about her but I don't know them. Seems like two families with girls can't live in a tiny West Texas town without knowing a little about each other.
- Steve : i'm following the stories here, you know that tiny little Rowena, Texas is where Bonnie Parker lived her whole life until she took off with Clyde.
- John : the plugin that creates that list will do that but I've tried it and it creates a long column of type where you can't distinguish the names. I guess there's a way to change the code to make the names bold or put a carriage return between them but I don't know how to do it. But it works the way it is, when there's a new name at the top of the list there's a new comment. Clicking takes you to it.
- Art : John, do that thing where it shows the first sentence of every comment.
- John : you're right, that's the key. To explain things like that we need some kind of FAQ page to clue newcomers who's who and what's what and how to get more out of the website. That's only been on the list of things for do for six years.
- Mary : i first came from a link to the ducks post but I love this site. A lot goes on every week and I don't quite know who's who - It's like a texas internet reality show. I just found the "recent comments" nested in the sidebar. THAT is making it easier to stay up with the comments.
- John : it crept down to 22 degrees.... for us South Texas cold wimps, that's like sub-zero.
- John : well, there was a little snow in New Braunfels today. Evan saw it at school and said it was the largest, fluffiest flakes he'd seen in his life. We've battened down the hatches here. Turned the well pump off and opened all the hydrants, let all three giant German Shepherds in the house and got the plants in a closed area with a space heater blastin'. We're as ready for 25 degrees as we can get.
- John : wouldn't it be nice to have a reading every time? We make the rules... let's make that rule!
- DAP : I'm really sorry I missed that! I really like when someone does a reading!
- John : even though we were missing Mother and Deirdre last night... that was a great Thursday Night Music Club. Lots of highlights but one for me was Susan Whipple reading one of Charlie's stories.
- Art : you might laugh but I have a pair of snowshoes
- DAP : I do believe in snow! I do! I do!
- Steve : There's a line outside Academy Sports and Outdoors at Perrin Beitel and 410. A run on snowshoes.
- John : Is anybody believing all this talk about how it's going to snow here tomorrow?
- Tyler Archer : I bought myself some super cute Christmas socks and a new santa hat- does that count?
- Steve : Anybody else not even started their Christmas shopping yet?
- Jimmie : write wabbits, wright wabbits, wright wabbits
- John : white rabbits, white rabbits, white rabbits.
- John : Jimmie just came in to report that the first freeze of the year will be here possibly as soon as Wednesday night but by the weekend for sure. Start putting your plants up Central Texas! I have to assemble my makeshift greenhouse.
- Steve : clean up your desktop from the inside «link»
- Malcolm : For those with HBO and are interested, they are showing the 25th anniversary Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Concert. Jerry Lee Lewis opened with Great Balls of Fire and CSN is on right now.
- Mary : LOVE THE WEBSITE, WHIPPLES!
- John : we had a good Thanksgiving. Spent Thursday with our kids, my mom and dad and Jimmie's side of the family and yesterday with Smith and Davis cousins from the Whipple side. It's like we've been members of a professional eating team.
- Art : Hope you all have a great Turkey Day!!
- John : Turkey report... it's belly up in the tanning booth. Lookin' good.
- John : and it just dawned on me... he gets to sleep late. That damn Jack.
- John : big old turkey's half thawed out, gonna get up at 6 in the morning and put it in the smoker. Jack's frying his at the party tomorrow... Jack kicks my ass on showmanship.
- John : who?
- Tyler Archer : My favorite beefcake is gonna be on Rolling Stone Magazine
- Art : uummmmmmm yummm beercake!
- Steve : feeling low, deep down in your sooooooul? Has your funky turned old and junky? Maybe you fell out of touch with Sly. «link»
- John : I heard on the news that the beefcake movie made $140,000,000 in the first four days. All but just a little of it from women. Highest first weekend gross in history. And they say it's terrible. Silly girls, with $140 million you could have negotiated a worldwide group rate at Chippendale's.
- Steve : a picture like that of fat guys like us wouldn't be beefcake they'd be beercake.
- John : well here it is... Thanksgiving week. Whether we're ready of it or not, welcome to The Holiday Season 2009! This one has the benefit of Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve and New Years Eve all falling on Thursdays so lots of people are going to get three, four day mini-vacations really close together.
- John : don't make the news just report it. Remember, it wasn't cheese it was cheeseCAKE. ....I really have no idea.
- Jackie : how is it that women are cheese and men get to be beef? Cheese?
- John : You just removed an item off the almost infinite list of things I don't know.
- Michael : proof number zillion that it's a small world. Joe Walsh is Ringo Starr's brother-in-law. Bet you didn't know that.
- Steve : Is it raining in north Whippleworld? It's soaking here in south Whippleworld.
- John : It's such a ridiculous word. It's origin, of course, is the masculine from of Cheesecake. How did people come up with the word Cheesecake to describe provocative female poses? It's like it was already weird so Beefcake was just another big step in that weird direction. Right?
- Tyler Archer : Wow when's the last time the word Beefcake was thrown around...
- John : Whippleworld has gone Beefcake
- Malcolm : Sure Tyler, sure.
- Tyler Archer : I didn't mean for Taylor Lautner's picture to be so big...ooops- Have fun at TNMC without me tonight!!! I'll be back after Thanksgiving!
- John : Cara, I got it and really appreciate it. I'm going to get a disc of other photos back to you as soon as I can.
- Cara Cash King : John~ did you get the disc? If for some reason it does not work just let me know!
- John : Spam is a reality we have to live with. Even FaceBook now is getting attacked like crazy. But we had a little spam hacker attack here over the last few days. It wasn't anything that spread or was of any danger, just a nuisance. Our guardian angel Gretchen fixed it but we are changing some passwords so about half of you may get an email from the site with a new password. If you don't, don't worry about it and keep using what you have.
- John : It happens once a year.... Light The Heater Day. It was 38 degrees here last night. Fall has shot a shot across our bow.
- John : it's great Mom!
- Ann Pattillo : Son, I'm sorry my story was so long.
- Ann Pattillo : I was saying that to have groceries delivered on a regular basis was too expensive, and she had to charge so much that even the local people couldn't support the store. So when you see the picture of the old run down building you can clearly see the results. The same thing happened to the school there. It was a beautiful old brick, small town school. I have never thought until now, how sad it is. But I hear there are some people in town adding on or fixing up their home's. Who knows what all c
- Ann Pattillo : It is hard to believe that while I was growing up "Baker's store" took care of Choate 's people. We had a charge account for groceries, and when Mama got paid, she paid them. My Aunt "Neen" for Maudine, was mama's sister. She married Charlie Bradfute and moved to Choate and leased the store. You could always go there after she took over and get a bowl of beans and some cornbread, and if it was cold she probably had made chile. She was well known and liked but had to have cash. To be on a
- John : eBird for Jimmie «link»
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